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Gov. Quinn discusses Pilgrim Baptist litigation and Capital Bill state/church separation controversy

Part Three of four.


Governor Quinn, at his news conference on clean water at the Jim Thompson Center
in downtown Chicago on Sunday, August 23, 2009, along with
Doug Scott, Director of the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (left),
Attorney General Lisa Madigan (right) and State Representative Bob Rita (right).
Photo by Rob Sherman.  Click on picture for larger image.

Governor Quinn discussed with me the million dollar Pilgrim Baptist grant at his press conference on transparency in government, last week on Monday, August 17th.  Then, two days ago, on Sunday, Auust 23rd, after his press conference on clean water, Quinn discussed with me concerns that State workers have expressed to me about why they should have to take furlough days, if the State has tens of millions of dollars for houses of worship, parochial schools and religious ministries.

Regarding the million dollar grant to Pilgrim Baptist, I said to the Governor, during the Press Q&A, that he had told me, at the St. Patrick's Day Parade, five months ago, that he would have his attorneys look into the Pilgrim Baptist grant.

The Governor nodded, that he recalled that conversation in March, 2009.

I then said that, at the Gay Pride Parade, on June 28th, Attorney General Lisa Madigan had told me, through a particular top aide, that there was nothing that Lisa could do to settle my lawsuit, against the State, to enjoin the disbursement of the million dollars, until Pat gave Lisa the go-ahead to resolve the litigation.

I summarized by saying that, since one of the topics of the news conference was the need to clean up lingering scandals in State government, and since Lisa was right there in the room, standing next to him, could he please just turn to Lisa and tell her, "Rob's right.  The grant is unconstitutional.  Settle the matter with Rob," and be done with that particular scandal.

Pat replied that Lisa is an excellent Attorney General and that, as an independently elected Constitutional Officer, Lisa has the power and discretion to decide what to do with the case.

You can listen to audio of the entire news conference.  My exchange with the Governor begins at the 4:13 mark of the recording.  The Governor's reply to me begins at the 5:01 mark and goes to 5:25. 

While it's true that Lisa is a great AG -- the best in the history of Illinois -- Pat is the client in the Pilgrim Baptist litigation.  The best attorney in the world can't settle a case if her client refuses to tell his attorney what he wants to do.  Lisa is not the client.  Pat is.  Lisa merely represents Pat.

I accepted Pat's answer, but then, after the news conference, I met with Lisa to discuss this latest development -- the contradiction between what her top aide had told me and what Pat was telling me, now.

That discussion will be in Part Four of this series,

Meanwhile, after the news conference this past Sunday, in which I spoke to Illinois EPA Director Doug Scott during the Q&A about pharmaceuticals in our drinking water (a report on that conversation will be forthcoming, here, in the next few days), I told Governor Quinn about the e-mails that I have received and the comments in the Springfield Journal-Register from State employees, who have been saying, "We're not going to take furlough days to help balance the budget if the State has tens of millions of dollars to give away to churches, parochial schools and religious ministries."

I asked Governor Quinn what response he had to State employees who felt that way.

Pat said that the Operating Budget and the Capital Budget are two separate funds.

I asked Pat if money could be transferred from the Capital Budget to the Operating Budget.

Pat said, "No."

Keep in mind, as you read this, that this is not about whether I agree with Pat or not.  As a journalist, I'm just letting you know what his position is on the issues.

Please e-mail a comment to me at rob@robsherman.com to let me know what you think, and I'll post your comments, below.

I look forward to your comments on this one, especially if you are a taxpayer and you don't appreciate the Illinois General Assembly dictating to you that you shall donate your money to houses of worship, parochial schools and religious ministries, and then picking out the religious organizations that you are going to be forced to donate to. 

Please tell your friends about this through your social media networks and word of mouth.

Send personal comments, comments unrelated to this story or notification of typos that you see in any of my posts to rob@robsherman.com.

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